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mitt romney has been here since monday night. with me now is former colorado governor billowens. the second of three colorado governors i have on my show today. let me start with the same question i asked governor hickenlooper. why is colorado a swing state? what do you tell friends and families and colleagues when they ask what makes colorado such a right down the middle state? >> it is one of the best educated states in the country in terms of college graduates it is the best educated state in the country. we really are a microcosm of the country. a lot of coloradoens came from other states. and so it's a nice place to battle out the country's elections. and as you probably pointed out earlier we have gone all sorts of ways in presidential elections. we have elected democratic governors. i think the coloradoens take a look at the candidate and vote for the person they think will do the best job for colorado and the country. >> it seems to me in watching what i feel like the conversation colorado voters are having with each other is that the president thinks women voters and soc
mitt romney has been here since monday night. with me now is former colorado governor billowens. the second of three colorado governors i have on my show today. let me start with the same question i asked governor hickenlooper. why is colorado a swing state? what do you tell friends and families and colleagues when they ask what makes colorado such a right down the middle state? >> it is one of the best educated states in the country in terms of college graduates it is the best educated...
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governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think we're talking about wednesday morning, brett o'donnell? are we talking about how great of a performance he had or are we saying agh, this thing is probably over? >> no, first of all i think these could be great debates. you have two very capable debaters heading into the debates. and i think we're going to come out and learn more about the president's policies and learn that it was the president who is responsible for the economic conditions of millions of americans are suffering through right now. >> brett, i was going to give you the last line. i can't let it end there. richard, is that the
governor romney, the primary debater versus governor romney the presidential debater. how are they going to be different? >> well, i think if he does what he did in florida, if he goes on offense, then, you know, he'll be the same debater that he was toward the end of the primary season. and that's what he needs to do. if he gets defensive, then i think that's a bad thing. so i think he'll go on offense, though. he certainly has a lot of material to work with. >> what do you think...
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yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a major in the delaware national guard having served a 12-pomonth deployment iraq. he's also the vice president's son. mitt romney has hammered president obama for the automatic military cuts that could take place as a result of congress failing to reach a debt deal. even the defense secretary said the cuts could be staef dating. does that hurt the president in the vet community? >> number one, congress must act and avoid sequestration op any of these defense cuts. number two, you know, governor romney seems to confuse the defense budget from the veterans budget. what
yet a may gallup polls show vets favor governor romney. in fact, during wednesday's debate governor romney reiterated his commitment to strengthen the nation's military. >> we have a responsibility to protect the lives and liberties of our people, and that means a military second to none. i do not believe in cutting our military. i believe in maintaining the strength of america's military. >> so let's bring in beau biden, attorney general for the state of delaware. he is also a...
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everybody working for the president, everybody working for governor romney knows what's going on. but we don't have any process in place, any mechanism in place to discipline them so that when they can be called out in a way that corrects their behavior. the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns in terms of trying to actually tell the truth about the challenges we face. >> thank you to emmy darling mark halperin for leaving us less depressed and less confused than when we started the hour. thanks for your time, mark. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, not so great expectations, both campaigns try to lower the bar ahead of tonight's debate we will try to sneak a peek inside the playbook. smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tank
everybody working for the president, everybody working for governor romney knows what's going on. but we don't have any process in place, any mechanism in place to discipline them so that when they can be called out in a way that corrects their behavior. the cover story details that and i urge everybody involved in this process including jim lehrer to try to make the last 40 days better than what we've seen so far. the country deserves better and these candidates are better than their campaigns...
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we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> greta: i thought one of the questions governor romney handled well was the bipartisan question. we had a discussion about the fact there is no budget. we can't get a budget here beca
we didn't hear anything about the case for governor romney. we didn't hear about president obama saying you didn't build it or something like that. this was a more elevated discussion. we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there...
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the governor romney of 2001, the governor romney governor of massachusetts, would have been a strong contender in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the nbc news poll and why it says tonight's debate is so crucial for governor romney. and the answer may not be what you're thinking right now. >>> but first, there's a lot going on today. here are some things we just thought you should know. education secretary arne duncan is calling for printed textbooks to become obsolete within the next few years. wow. duncan says the u.s. is fall willing behind other nations that are already traps sigging from print to digital school books. >>> and who's going tonight next big cheese? chee-tos hired an artist to make portraits of president obama, governor romney made entirely of c
the governor romney of 2001, the governor romney governor of massachusetts, would have been a strong contender in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. the governor romney who ttacked far to the right, like the blunt amendment and say he was for it that romney is going to get swamped in the philadelphia suburbs and the cleveland suburbs. >> governor rendell, thank you so much for having you on. >> thank you. thank you. >>> up next, we will dig deeper into the...
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>> i think the moderators are going e to ask governor romney about a lot of the things that you just talked about. i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to do what paul ryan said he didn't have time to do and that is explain how they pay for a $5 trillion tax cut. as you pointed out, ed, it is a time problem that is vexing in this budget. it's a math problem. they can't pay for it. if they can't pay for it, then they are going to raise taxes on the middle class. that's what the economic studies have shown. and look, i don't know anybody who thinks we're another tax cut for a millionaire away from a stronger middle class. that's just not how we have built our economy before and it's not how we're going to continue to make our country on the debate moderator to do itill ?e present be >> ihink the debate morato think the president will push back pticularly on some of these budget and tax issues. i have no doubthey are going to get a chance to talk about e b and mitt romney is wanting to letetroit go bankpt. and i think the president looks towards tomorrow as a great opport
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governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing obama care you're looking at 50 million people losing health insurance at a time when it's vitally important. get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from
governor romney says we should replace it. i'm just going to repeal it but we could replace it with something. he hasn't described what we'll replace it with, other than saying we'll leave it to the states. but the fact of the matter is, some is of the prescriptions that he's offered like letting you buy insurance across state lines, there's no indication that that somehow will help somebody who has a pre-existing condition able to finally buy insurance. in fact, it's estimated by repealing...
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that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every single day on behalf of the american people. >> romney, a much crisper closing. >> kbrn this is bigger than an election about the two of us as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine moment on stage. romney lingered after the president left and parted with a triumphant wave. got a rousing response from relieved partisans. if romney's goal for the first debate was to get a second look from voters, he succeeded. he was energetic and funny. came across as knowledgeable. especially to those tuning in for the first time. a clear winner in a handful. responders pick him as the winner by 40 points. uncommitted voters polled by cbs news called romney the winner by a 2-1 margin. and 56% said the opinion of romney changed for the better after last figh
that's a promise governor romney thinks i kept. i also promised that i would fight every single day on behalf of the american people. >> romney, a much crisper closing. >> kbrn this is bigger than an election about the two of us as individuals. it's bigger than our respective parties. it's an election about the course of america. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. >> romney had a bounce in his step post debate. it looked like a genuine...
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so what is with governor romney's obsession with firing big bird? >>> plus, folks, we are putting up the facts that mitt romney misrepresented about his plans. they're on our facebook page. please go there. check it out. facts do matter. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. whatever your business challenge, when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male an
so what is with governor romney's obsession with firing big bird? >>> plus, folks, we are putting up the facts that mitt romney misrepresented about his plans. they're on our facebook page. please go there. check it out. facts do matter. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell...
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the president talked about governor romney's screlt plans. that notice of secrecy showed up in focus groups. it's why when they talk about governor romney not releasing his tax returns -- gwen: which didn't come up. >> no. what governor romney is hiding is the argument that the democrats wants to be talking about. >> if the president had one good line it was on that issue. he basically said if mitt romney health care plan and tax plan is so great for the middle class, why don't we know about it? gwen: did romney in the end earn the second look he needed? he was on the precipice of a bad storyline forming. did he get the second look he needed? >> i think he certainly did. let's say if the debate would be going the other way we'd be talking about how it's virtually impossible for governor romney to win. instead, we're talking about how the polls are tight, he outperformed the president. he got a second look. we're still 30-odd days away. there's a lot that can happen but there's no question he did everything he needed to do in that debate. >> a
the president talked about governor romney's screlt plans. that notice of secrecy showed up in focus groups. it's why when they talk about governor romney not releasing his tax returns -- gwen: which didn't come up. >> no. what governor romney is hiding is the argument that the democrats wants to be talking about. >> if the president had one good line it was on that issue. he basically said if mitt romney health care plan and tax plan is so great for the middle class, why don't we...
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what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate? >> he needs to give the american people the choice that we are offering. that is what we are doing. we owe the country a cheer choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. stick with the failed policies of the last four years for the next four years or get a brighter future. stagnation versus growth. dependency versus opportunity and upper mobility. that is the classic choice and clear difference that we are offering and what we hope people get out of this this debate is that choice. >> chris: it is interesting because for the last six months the romney campaign said this is a referendum on barack obama's record and now you are saying it is a choice. >> it is not a change in strategy. a phase of the campaign we now entered into. i think it is important. the president is trying to paper over his problems and has been trying to mislead and distort the record. it is a failed
what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate? >> he needs to give the american people the choice that we are offering. that is what we are doing. we owe the country a cheer choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic growing economy that produces opportunity or we can have a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. stick with the failed policies of the last four years for the next four years or get a brighter future. stagnation versus growth....
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there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from spending? first of all, i will eliminate all programs by this test. if they don't pass it. is the program so critical, it's worth boring money from china to pay for it? obama care is on my list. i apologize mr. president. jim, i'm sorry, i had stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird, like you too. but i won't keep on spending money to borrow money from china to pay for. i'll take programs that are currently good programs but could be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to state. and make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine age
there's enormous pressure on president obama and governor romney right now. we're asking debate watchers, those who watched the debate to the history books. tonight, just like we will after every upcoming debate, we're breaking it down, issue by issue. this means more talk from the candidate on a particular topic. looking at some of the totals, we'll show you what's going on. but, first, here are some of the highlights from the first presidential debate. >> what things would i cut from...
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it's on governor romney. when governor romney has a joke or a zinger, it's also how president obama addresses it and how he deals with it. he has an advantage, which is people already like him. they already are sympathetic to him. they're kind of often rooting for him. so i think he really needs to take the debate very seriously as a way to discuss what he means -- what it means to move this country forward. he shouldn't get into the games of it and the zingers and the back and forth. he doesn't want to be mean either. so i think he should just take this as an opportunity to talk about his policies. >> nera and robert, definitely not rick perry as i was looking down at my notes. thanks to both of you. have a great weekend. >> thank you. you, too. >>> nbc news has learned that the republican national committee has fired a controversial consulting firm it hired to conduct voter registration in five battleground states. potentially fraudulent registration forms have been uncovered. michael isokoff joins me with
it's on governor romney. when governor romney has a joke or a zinger, it's also how president obama addresses it and how he deals with it. he has an advantage, which is people already like him. they already are sympathetic to him. they're kind of often rooting for him. so i think he really needs to take the debate very seriously as a way to discuss what he means -- what it means to move this country forward. he shouldn't get into the games of it and the zingers and the back and forth. he...
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governor romney earlier mentioned how the bowles-simpson commission. that's a bipartisan commission that talked about how we should move forward suggested we have to do it. in a balanced way with some revenue and some spending cuts. and this is a major difference that governor romney and i have. >> let me finish this point. you're looking for contrasts. when governor romney stood on a stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of spending cuts for just $1 of revenue, and he said no. >> substantive debate on the major issues facing the country right now. right now, domestic issues, economic issues, health care, taxes, the nation's debt. got into the weeds in some areas, but this was a very, very important debate. anderson cooper watching this with all of our analysts as well. >> fascinating to see both men on the stage for the first time. you saw a difference in terms of temperament in debating style. i want to bring in gloria boerger and david gergen. even president obama's final statement didn't thi
governor romney earlier mentioned how the bowles-simpson commission. that's a bipartisan commission that talked about how we should move forward suggested we have to do it. in a balanced way with some revenue and some spending cuts. and this is a major difference that governor romney and i have. >> let me finish this point. you're looking for contrasts. when governor romney stood on a stage with other republican candidates for the nomination, and he was asked, would you take $10 of...
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governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're adding a trillion a year is simply not moral. how do we deal with it? mathematically there are three ways. one of course is to raise taxes. number two is to cut spending and number 3 is to grow the economy, because if more people work in a growing economy, they are paying taxes and you can get the job done that way. the president would prefer raising taxes, i understand. the problem with raising taxes is it slows down the rate of growth. i want to lower spending and encourage economic growth at the same time. what would i cut? fi
governor romney you go first. and the question is this what are the differences between the two of you as to how you would go about tackling the deficit problem in this country? >> romney: i'm glad you raised that. and it's a critical issue. i think it's not just an economic issue, i think it is a moral issue. i think it's not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens will be passed on to the next generation, and the amount of debt we're...
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governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely. >> lehrer: completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >> lehrer: okay. >> we're now spending 42% of our economy on government. i don't want to go down the path to spain. i want to go down the path of growth that puts americans to work with more money coming in because they're working. >> lehrer: mr. president you're saying in order to get the job done it's got to be balanced? >> if we're serious we've got to take a balanced responsible approach. and by the way this is not just when it comes to individual taxes. let's talk about corporate taxes. now i've identified areas where we can right away make a change that i believe w
governor romney has ruled out revenue. he's ruled out revenue. >> lehrer: that's true. >> absolutely. >> lehrer: completely? >> the revenue i get is by more people working getting higher pay paying more taxes. that's how we get growth and balance the budget. but the idea of taxing people more, putting more people out of work, you'll never get there. you never balance the budget by raising taxes. spain. spain spends 42% of their total economy on government. >>...
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who has the most to lose, president obama or governor romney? >> certainly governor romney. the president ea's ahead. he's a good debater. this whole setting expectations by his team is very silly. he hasn't debated in a campaign recently, he's debated plenty. he knows hows to keep his cool on a national stage. the governor needs to turn the expectations around, and that's the problem he's having right now. he's got a lot of people saying, the debate's really going to change everything for him. it's his last chance. donors are going to go away if he doesn't do well. he's going to lose the support of establishment republicans who will start giving their money to senate candidates instead. it's a tremendous amount of pressure. so he's really got the expectations game that he's got to fulfill, and we'll see how he does. >> anne, this praise of mitt romney about an anecdote of being abandoned on a boat his hi grandkids. take a look and take a listen. >> i said, who's going to grab the rope? and i looked up, and there was mitt romney. so he pull ed me in, tied up th boat for me,
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but don't worry, governor romney has a solution. zingers. the "new york times" reports that mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing since august. zingers? mr. romney doesn't need zingers. he needs new ideas. he needs a new campaign. truth be told, he needs a new candidate. after all, the guy he's been debating all along has been himself on health care. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health care reform. of course, there are a number of things that i like in health care reform. >> well, of course. i'm going to repeal obama care. i've said that on the campaign trail. i think every single day obama care must be repealed in its entirety. >> he was for it before he was against it. and that auto bailout -- >> you said, quote, if general motors, ford, and chrysler gets the bailouts that their chief executives asked for yesterday, you can kiss the automotive industry good-bye. >> that's exactly right. if you write a check, they are going to go out of business. >>
but don't worry, governor romney has a solution. zingers. the "new york times" reports that mr. romney's team has concluded that debates are about creating moments and has equipped him with a series of zingers that he has memorized and has been practicing since august. zingers? mr. romney doesn't need zingers. he needs new ideas. he needs a new campaign. truth be told, he needs a new candidate. after all, the guy he's been debating all along has been himself on health care. >>...
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when governor romney was tested, he got kind of testy. and i thought that the president maintained his cool throughout and did well. >> what about the president's cool and the president's dignified reserve as you put it, do you think he's going to have to change that style going forward in these debates? >> i don't believe so. i think that -- >> if you could coach him on the next debate, if you could do ten minutes of coaching on the next debate, based on what you saw tonight, what would you tell him to do differently? >> oh, i don't know. i think that the president has to keep doing what he's doing. i think he has to be truthful about why he's made the choices for us that he has made. i think he has to keep talking about the fact that we're moving forward and not back. 30 months in a row of positive job growth. and i think he has to continue to press governor romney on the fact that he's not putting forth any of the specifics about how he would do these various things he's promised. he went down the list of the things he would repeal. he
when governor romney was tested, he got kind of testy. and i thought that the president maintained his cool throughout and did well. >> what about the president's cool and the president's dignified reserve as you put it, do you think he's going to have to change that style going forward in these debates? >> i don't believe so. i think that -- >> if you could coach him on the next debate, if you could do ten minutes of coaching on the next debate, based on what you saw tonight,...
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>>> governor romney lives to fight another day. many of president obama's key supporters voicing their disappointment today that he did not take on governor romney when he had an opportunity. here's some of the headlines. in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the president is hitted to wisconsin, but not before taking one last parting shot a a fiery rally in denver not too long ago. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to pay for the wealthy. the fellow on stage last night said he didn't know anything about that. >> around the same time governor romney was making a surprise appearance at the conservative political action conference,
>>> governor romney lives to fight another day. many of president obama's key supporters voicing their disappointment today that he did not take on governor romney when he had an opportunity. here's some of the headlines. in fact, the "los angeles times" says, quote, obama fans are shocked by mitt romney's dominance in debate. "the chicago tribune" said for obama words not said spoke the loude loudest. it said obama hit with a left hook on tv and online. the...
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governor romney's favorables continue to be underwater in all but north carolina now. combine these numbers with what we've seen all week, how worried are republicans? how worried are they that we're approaching the point where it might be time to focus on the congressional races? >> i think people are getting very worried, and i had a pollster doing conservative polling for three decades on my show last night. he said it may be time to go back to a 1996 model of telling the american people, listen, if you're going to re-elect bill clinton, you better have republicans in the congress to make sure to keep him in check. i think it may be a little early for that yet. i think the president still has weaknesses because of the economies, and i think because of that mitt romney's gin more chances than he otherwise would to make his case to the american people. i think this very first debate next week may be his last best chance to make his case. >> do you think if the debate's a flop for mitt romney that all of a sudden some super-pacs and big dollar donors, some of the estab
governor romney's favorables continue to be underwater in all but north carolina now. combine these numbers with what we've seen all week, how worried are republicans? how worried are they that we're approaching the point where it might be time to focus on the congressional races? >> i think people are getting very worried, and i had a pollster doing conservative polling for three decades on my show last night. he said it may be time to go back to a 1996 model of telling the american...
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>> no, no, governor romney's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like newt gingrich and rick santorum and others. they were very capable opponents on a debate stage. barack obama hasn't done this for four years. so i would think the advantage would definitely be with the apparent underdog, a, because people don't think he's going to win and i think he may well win that first debate and secondly, because he's the more experienced debater. >> well, i think i would caution you a little bit. i think the president, when he has given kind of press interviews, that is a form of being pressed on things so maybe you're not deba
>> no, no, governor romney's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> president obama talking about zingers and trying to manage expectations for the debate. charles and ross are back to talk about whether that's a good strategy. i have a poll here about who's likely to win the debate and very clearly, people think that obama will, 55% to 31%. yet, i would say that the favorite really ought to be mitt romney, purely because he spent most of the year debating against very good debaters like...
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governor romney will try to put him off-balance. he has to relax, he has to show a little sense of humor, show why he's likable. that's all nonverbal cues. >> maggie, doesn't mitt romney also, in this debate -- he needs to have a moment that dominates news coverage in the days coming out? because that's how most people are going to get their information from this debate. >> yes, absolutely. to governor dean's point, i agree there's a concern for the president in not looking like mitt romney is getting to him. >> let's show some of that. we have a little montage of the best and worst moments of each candidate in their debates. >> i tell you what, 10,000 bucks. $10,000 bet? >> i'm not in the betting business. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> the idea that i'm anti-immigrant is repulsive. >> the war started you said it that it was going to be quick and easy. you said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. you were wrong. >> each candida
governor romney will try to put him off-balance. he has to relax, he has to show a little sense of humor, show why he's likable. that's all nonverbal cues. >> maggie, doesn't mitt romney also, in this debate -- he needs to have a moment that dominates news coverage in the days coming out? because that's how most people are going to get their information from this debate. >> yes, absolutely. to governor dean's point, i agree there's a concern for the president in not looking like...
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i think for governor romney he needs to have a strong performan performance. it's not just about one performance for him. his problem is a lack of consistency. he's got to have a good wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday. every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get irritable. it's going to be hard when governor romney is going to try to get him with his little zingers, to not get annoyed at the lack of searsneriousness an lack of actual facts. so i think most of us at this point are expecting, romney can have a mediocre performance and i think he will get good spin the next day. >> steve, the romney campaign is up against another difficulty in the poll which is the public's actual expectation at this point. the "washington post" poll shows that among likely voters, 55% of them expect president obama to win the debate. 31% expect mit
i think for governor romney he needs to have a strong performan performance. it's not just about one performance for him. his problem is a lack of consistency. he's got to have a good wednesday, thursday, friday, saturday. every day to the election. if you see him give one good performance and the next day they're off message, it's more of what we've seen the bumbling along throughout the campaign. and i think for president obama the challenge is, as my former boss howard dean said, don't get...